and obama's highs are less high. so it's still a strugg, i agree, but i think what obama has been able to do is say, look, m nogivi youar high morni in eric i'm telling you, we're gritty, back to the basics, rebuilding america, and i know it's tough, but that is finally a different kind of message. people realize that reagan's recovery was the sugar high, and sll h to al with it bt >> well, the question i have -- first of all, i'm not sure you're right because paul volcker was appointed fed chair by jimmy carter and he began squeezing the money supply under carter, i know about it, i was there. >> but the recession started in '81. >> you call the misery index. obviously, the sgelement in tis index right now is the unemployment rate, up around 8.3. inflation doesn't help getting rid of it politically if it isn't around. nobody gives you credit for not having inflation. they give you anger if you have -- >> b let me remind you, every right wing economist suggting pela bw becausof our debt. we have a problem of deflatio